Thursday, February 18, 2010

YSR AND MADHAV RAO SCINDIA AND PLANE CRASH

An Article from KN RAO, PRIYAMBADA AGRAWAL.

On 2 September after we finished the weekly Vishnu Sahastraam recitation at the house of Sri K.N.Rao., he opened a television channel and found the same news--the missing chopper which carried Y.S.R.Reddy known better in political circles as YSR the chief minister of Andhra Pradesh.

Did Sri Rao have his horoscope was the question two or three of us asked and he took out an unverified horoscope of YSR with Dhanu lagna of 8 July 1949. Presuming the horoscope to be correct, I said that there was no chance of YSR surviving in the dasha of Rahu-Mercury-Saturn.

Next day, on 3 September Sri Rao told me that he got from a lover of astrology a different horoscope of YSR. Here the date was the same but the time of birth was 22/42 and the place of birth was Pulivendla. The earlier gave the place of birth as Jammalamadugu and the time of birth as 18:19: with Dhanu lagna rising.

In this horoscope has Kumbha lagna. At the time of death , YSR, was running RahuVenus and Venus the lord of fourth house of vehicles in the sixth house of accidents appealed to me.

Some other events known to us were verified but not many are known except what appeared in the newspapers. The television channels, mostly in English kept discussing the missing chopper of YSR whole the day on 2nd September as through other news were least significant. Sri Rao said that these English channels did not give even one twentieth so much coverage to Madhavrao Scindia while he was a national figure unlike YSR who was only a politician of a south Indian state of Andhra Pradesh. It was ludicrous and total loss of sense of proportion.

On 3rd September television channels continued in the same vein after it was known that all the five passengers on the ill fated chopper had died in an accident on the Rudrakonda hillock where YSR’s helicopter crashed with heavy rain and cloudy sky reducing visibility to a fatally dismal level.

Why two horoscopes I wondered. Sri Rao told us, as he says in the class room also often, politicians keep misleading astrologers by passing on wrong birth data. Why was it so in this case is not clear. But the Kumbha lagna horoscope is said to have come from a close friend of YSR and is said to be reliable. At any rate, it is study of the horoscope of a person who is dead and will be forgotten very soon. Astrologers will not even need this horoscope to predict about future political events of India as we longer need Madhavrao Sindia’s horoscope.

Horscopes of YSR and Madhav Rao Scindia

From the facts known about YSR the Kumbha lagna horoscope can be used for three good reasons
a) Mars the tenth lord aspecting his own house which is the tenth house made him dictatorial type of politician who was a terror for his enemies.
b) This Mars aspected by Saturn gave him love for masses whose welfare he kept in the mind.
c) The aspect of Jupiter on this tenth lord gave him idealism and combined with Mars the will and determination to get implemented his well known welfare schemes.
Kumbha (Aquarius) lagna horoscope
At the time of his death, YSR was running the Vimshottari dasha of Rahu-VenusVenus. In Dwisaptati Sama Dasha, it was Saturn-Venus-Ketu. There is a research on Ketu in the eighth house by Shri Shiv Raj Sharma in which it has been repeatedly shown that Ketu in the eighth house gives painful death. Venus is common in both nakshatra dashas and the fourth lord in the sixth house aspected by retrograde Jupiter the second and the ninth lord.That explains a rich father and the Venus antardasha acquiring maraka qualities through Jupiterean aspect.

In Chara dasha it is Makar-Dhanu and Dhanu is well known for such events,rise or fall and violent deaths etc. In Jaimini’s Sthira dasha, it is Karka-Dhanu.

Repeating antardashas
It is very interesting to see that in nakshatra dashas Venus is repeating and Venus is in the sixth house of accidents. In Jaimini dashas Dhanu antardashas are repeating and Dhanu is the rashi of accidents or sudden sickness though it has given rise also to many.

Rahu on the day of death
There is a very notable point. On the death of YSR the degrees of Rahu in Makar was five degrees and forty three minutes and it was exactly on the natal Jupiter which is five degrees and thirty three minutes.

Back to television channels, strangely all the well known English channels were discussing and showing the accident of YSR while the Hindi channels were showing the immersion ceremony of Lord Ganesha on the sacred day of Anant Chaturdashi which fell on 3 September in 2009.

Did Madhavrao Scindia get even one twentieth so much tv coverage ? Or even P.V.Narasimha Rao who was India’s prime minister for five years and had steered Indian economy from direst of straits into the safer zone of safety?

YSR and Scindia
A comparison can be made of the deaths of both of these.

· In the case of YSR the fourth lord Venus is in the sixth house aspected by the second lord Jupiter.
· In the case of Madhav Rao Scindia, the fourth and sixth lords are in the eighth house aspected by retrograde second lord, Jupiter.
· The eighth house in both cases contains malefics and is airy rashis. Both died in air accidents.
· The eighth house or eighth lord has a connection with airy signs.
· The connection between the fourth and third house and/or their lords.
· Mutual aspects or conjunction of Saturn and Mars.
· Ketu in the eighth house from lagna or Moon.
· Seventh and eighth lords are in the fifth house.
· The second lord is retrograde in both cases and aspects the eighth house.
· Atmakaraka and Bhatrikarka has aspectual relation in both. Mars is either third lord or is connected to the third house.

Neither of them were great men not had anything that could win the admiration of people. YSR was a better manipulator of mass media and mass mind while Madhavrao was a royal figure, with pristine royal grandeur and strayed into politics and succeeded in a limited way.


To the credit of YSR it will have to be said that he got implemented welfare schemes with an iron will and steely hands and the benefits reached masses as had never happened before in any state.
Who will ever remember YSR? It is not in the hands of anybody to bestow on anyone greatness or immortality. A press well manipulated, a slavish media imitating each other to get higher trp has gone to a mad extent to make him look great. Some of his welfare schemes did do some good to some but was inflated beyond rational limits. When God wants to bestow greatness and immortality a stage is set and a full time table chalked out.

DR. BV RAMAN REMEMBERED

An Article from K N Rao.

If Dr. Raman had been alive he would have completed his ninety seventh year on 8 August and entered the ninety eighth. Why am I remembering him now when it is neither his anniversary nor is there any visible justifiable reason? My answer is purely personal.

Recently a ponga pandit who claims to be an astrologer, knows English and has even written a massively dull and unintelligent book as a commentary on a well known astrological classic, attacked Dr. Raman saying that he had learnt his Jaimini astrology wrongly from a pandit and reading his books has misled astrologers !! He made this statement in a letter to me.

It is this outrageous statement which annoyed me because what we astrologers owe to Dr. Raman should never be forgotten. To talk of him in personal tones let me make some recollections.

My astrological education in Hindi When I learnt astrology in my childhood with my mother initiating me into it, I could read Hindi only well and understand. My knowledge of English was elementary. Though my mother subscribed to the Astrological Magazine she alone read it and none else in our family.

My knowledge of astrology from books for many decades was garnered mainly from Hindi books published in Varanasi and Bombay’s Venkatesh Press. I never read any book of Dr.Raman as late as 1971, at the age of forty, because my mother had told me about his unacceptable ayanamsha. Besides, we did not have in the collection of astrology books of my mother, books of Dr. Raman. My mother’s personal collection was mostly in Telugu and that also well known astrological books, rarely anyone of contemporary writers of India who wrote in English though her knowledge of English was excellent she being the daughter of a headmaster during British rule. Those days the medium of teaching was through
English which was taught very well.

The quality of Varanasi books My knowledge of astrology came from books in Hindi. Let me state here that the books of Varanasi which are what many pandits compiled from whatever manuscripts they could lay their hands on, were uncritical combinations of the sublime and the dross, some gems and some folksy superstitions which could be a better subjects for anthropogists than astrologers.
It was much later that I learnt from some very respectable astrologers who used to come to meet my mother that these compilers of the differering versions of Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra etc. were mere theoreticians and poorest of predictors. That has been the well known limitation of many astrologers brought up in Sanskrit traditions, to whom we are grateful for making available to us these compilations. Yet, to accept their interpretations and even translations blindly is to ignore their terrible limitations. Sample some out of hundreds of such instances.
1) If Sun is in the twelfth house for Tula lagna, he will live for one hundred years is one such absurdity.
2) In dasha results of Vimshottari , if Venus or Mercury is in the sixth or eighth from Sun the results will be....such absurdities abound in these books.
3) Try the garbhadhan lagna (prenatal horoscope) given in these books and you will find that some of us had emerged out of the wombs of our mothers either in seven months or ten months and never in the normal period of nine months or eighth months and some days !!
4) If your lagna falls in 3,6,12 etc. from pranpada you are not a human being but an animal!!
5) Read the book carefully and you will find that women are only sexual objects which can be better judged through thrimshamsha!
Try these and you like me will have admiration for these pandit compilers for giving great books and also get amused by their knowledge of predictive astrology!!

They sprang from a background where the benefits of the liberal education given through English medium which makes us ask questions was totally absent. The habit of questioning authority for a statement and the difficulty of accepting anything unless it is proven made the students who studied through English medium very rational and scientific.

Dr. Raman was a product of such an education like most of us. Dr. Raman knew that some of pandits had good knowledge of astrology but their interpretations of some shlokas and their mangled meaning of some sutras, particularly of Jaimini never proved correct in actual application. A practical approach to astrology with sound predictive technique was what was needed.

It is astrologers brought up in the English medium education who alone could do it and did it. In many private conversations with me till we parted company in 1994, Dr. Raman told me of his experiences.

Reading Dr. Raman’s Books As I said that many people including the late Gopesh Kumar Ojha never accepted the ayanamsha of Dr. Raman because of which his books never attracted me till my jyotish guru,Yogi Bhaskaranandji, told me that Dr. Raman taught astrology scientifically through his books and had a remarkable record of great war time predictions which were world class. Left to myself, I rank Dr. Raman as the second best in the world after the late Hardeo Shastri Trivedi who wrote only in Hindi and was not noticed in the world of astrology and the world for his unbelievably great mundane predictions. Ofcourse I made this assessment after reading the predictions of these great astrologers who remain unrivalled even now.
It is after this that in 1971 I read the old issues of the Astrological Magazine and read some of his books with an open mind. I always found it difficult to accept his explanations because when I recast many of the horoscopes given in his books through Lahiri ayanamsha, I found varga charts showing different planetary positions. But if one were to accept his explanations based mostly on his ayanamsha he could not be faulted for his brilliant logic. I never found him using varga charts which appeared to be a terrible limitation.

Dr Raman’s book on Jaimini In course of time I read his book on Jaimini astrology which again is elementary compared to Hindi books I had already read. There was a difference---he was lucid and illustrative in his explanations which the Varanasi pandits could not do in their vast tomes of compilations because they were awful predictors.
Brahma I had ofcourse differences with Dr. Raman in the definition of Brahma for example which, he insisted must be in the visible half of a horoscope. His explanation of Maheshwara as the eighth lord from atmakaraka works very correctly and his definition of Rudra as the stronger of the two between the second and the eighth lord from the lagna works more brilliantly if you work on Sthira dasha of Jaimini in tracing illnessness and mishappenings in the life of a person. ( See the excellent book on Sthira Dasha by Mrs. Akhila Kumar).
What we owe to Dr. Raman is what cannot be repaid is what my jyotish guru told me. I not merely respected my jyotish guru’s assertion but also have, to date, produced the best paper on him which can be read in the book

Dr. Raman Man and Mission. Destiny chose me to repay the debt we owe to Dr. Raman. My jyotish guru who was alive when my paper was published in 1983, was immensely pleased with me and blessed me. He did say that what I had done for Dr. Raman is what one of his astrology knowing children should have done !!

His books not prescribed by us I never prescribed any of the books of Dr. Raman for our astrology course and never recommend it even now. That ofcourse does not diminish the great respect I have for him for making it possible for a man like me to walk on a stage of astrology he prepared ---and prepared for hundreds of astrologers.

So ignore this criticism of the ponga pandit indulging in sutra chopping and proving nothing through any illustration which he has no ability to prove as his elementary discussion of some horoscopes he gives in his massively dull book, shows.
Dr. Raman’s horoscope During his lifetime Dr. Raman had to face lot of jealousy and at the height of some attack on him I had said that astrologers should compare their horoscopes with Dr. Raman’s to see why his destiny bestowed on his the eminence he enjoyed. One of his peevish critics was R.Santhanam and the other is alive even now. I too am a critic not of Dr. Raman but of his ayanamsha.
Remember Dr. Raman gratefully. My writing this piece is because of the provocation of this ponga pandit that Dr. Raman did not know Jaimini astrology properly !!And I am doing it in the month of his birth, August.
Dr. Raman brought astrology back to us from the morass of confused pandits who claimed to be belonging to some parampara and looked astrology look like black magic which failed more often than worked.

AK-Moon, AmK-Sun, BK-Mars, MK-Mercury, PK-Jupiter, GK-Saturn, DK-Venus


( 26 August 2009) He died in the sthira dasha of Meena which is eighth from his Karakamsha.The antardasha of Vrishchika which has Maheshwara. Pratyantara dasha of Simha which has Rudra.
What Dr. Raman learnt from some pandit was better Jaimini astrology than what the sutra choppers mistaking themselves as authorities on Jaimini will ever understand.

In chara dasha as I do, the period of death came in Karka (aspected byMaheshwara, Mesha (aspected by Rudra) and Karka again aspected by Maheshwara.

I do not take any dasha balance in Chara dasha nor did Dr. Raman.

In Vimshottari dasha it was VenusVenus,the seventh dasha and in the seventh house, pratyantara dasha of Saturn aspected by Jupiter the second lord, and the sookshma dasha of Rahu in the second house and aspected by Jupiter again.

In one issue of the Astrological Magazine I had predicted the period from 1994 to 1996 as bad for him and he died two years later after falling ill in the period pointed out by me. I had ofcourse used the horoscope as here too on the basis of his birth time he had rectified himelf.

His atmakaraka is Moon, Maheshwara is Jupiter and Rudra is Mercury according to the method learnt by Dr. Raman from a pandit which is what the ponga disputed.
He died on December 20, 1998 On the day of his death, Mars was in the Eighth house from his lagna and Moon was in the eighth house from his birth Moon.

Remember, what Dr. Raman taught is scientific astrology like what we teach in the Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan but are neither prescribing his books nor using his ayanamsha.
But our respect for him does not suffer in view of his great contribution to Hindu astrology through English language.

HISTORIC DAYS IN A NATION'S HISTORY - BABRI MASJID

An Article from K N Rao - 30 June 2009

Let me start with a friend told me when I was in government service. The government of India had appointed a commission of inquiry which was never submitting its report and demanding extension after extension. The solution was found when the government decided to allot a house to the chairman of the commission with the permission to retain it after the commission closed down !!
Similar jokes will be heard about the Liberhan Commission which submitted its report to the government of India to allow, it is being said, the UPA government headed by the Congress party to proceed against BJP and other Hindu parties to please Muslims for coming assembly elections and take away the remnants of the Muslim vote banks of smaller parties like the BSP of Mulayam Singh and BSP of Mayawati.
Some facts about the Liberhan Commission are being talked of by the television channels. It has taken seventeen years to submit its report after taking 48 extensions after it was set up ten days after the demolition of the Babri Masjid on 6 December 1992 1993. It cost eight crore rupees, had 400 sittings . It will indict, it is being said, L.K.Advani, Murli Manohar Joshi, Uma Bharati among the famous names.
Lord Rama went into exile for fourteen years but this commission has taken seventeen years to submit its report!!
My private joke always has been that the BJP should not fight for Ram temple till it gets new leaders with different leaders as all the three top leaders then Atal Behari Vajpai (representing Krishna) Lal Krishna Advani representing Krishna) and Murli Manohar Joshi (representing Krishna) are fighting for Rama temple ! They do not have "Ram" in their names. Vinay Katiyar and Ashok Singhal have neither Rama nor Krishna, like many others in their names !! Even the second rank leaders do not have Rama in their names.
My more serious argument which two women students presented in a seminar in 2001 with astrological proofs of the existing of a Hindu temple in Ayodhya even in the eleventh century. And that most of the history of ancient countries have many legends which get historical approval. See this (story or fiction or fact ?)
Mohammad’s ascent to heaven !! One night, Muhammad, accompanied by the angel Gabriel, flew on the back of a winged, horse-like creature to Jerusalem to visit the temple that was built by King Solomon (who, by the way, is also considered to be one of the prophets). At the Temple, Muhammad prayed with Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Muhammad was then carried up to heaven by Gabriel, where Muhammad met God. Because of this trip, Moslems consider Jerusalem to be the third most holy city, after Mecca and Medina. Within Jerusalem lies one of Islam's most holy sites, the Dome of the Rock, which covers the place where Muhammad is said to have stepped as he began his ascent to heaven. During the Night Journey, Muhammad was told several tenets that he incorporated into the basis of Islam, for example, that all Moslems should pray five times a day.
Has anyone made it a historical controversy and deprived Muslims from visiting this "historical" place?
Babri Masjid Horoscopes
Now come to the astrological significance of 6 December 1992 and the demolition of the Babri Masji which , it is well known was a deserted mosque. It is very well known that Hindus have associated this place with Lord Rama which is why Muslims destroyed the temple there and built a mosque as they have done in Mathura and Varanasi. But the Congress party must ignore this , the BJP does not advance this as an argument and Hindus, even those who have nothing to do with politics want to see a Rama temple so sacred to us in Ayodhya referred to in the Valmiki Ramayana. India’s Congress Party contains world’s greatest hypocrites.
It is also well known that Christians first and later Muslims destroyed the places of worship of other religions to proclaim their supremacy and converted and proselyted people. Powerful hypocrites escaped punishment is the history of religions !!
But God must be laughing at these philistines pretending to be angels and His messengers on this planet of ours.
6 December 1992Now come to the 6 December 1992 demolition of the Masjid and see it astrologically. December 6 was a Sunday and I was in Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan along with David Frawley from USA who wanted to see our teaching methods and was attending one of my classes. Another teacher rushed to my room and said that the students wanted to know why and how the Babri Masjid was demolished and wanted it to be explained astrologically. There was a great and insistent demand. I combined the classes and explained with Frawley listening to me.
See the horoscope of the time and day of the demolition given here.
1) There is the exchange of the third lord (representing karsevaks or the volunteers kar being hand with which service is rendered) and the sixth house being aggression.
2) The fourth and ninth lord Venus here is the Masjid the ninth lord in the twelfth house is the place of worship. It is under double affliction , is with Saturn and is aspected by Mars.
3) Rahu Ketu axis falls in Vrisha – Vrischika (Taurus– Scorpio) which historically (see Mehta and Radhika’s book on recently released book on Mundane Astrology) is a significant period in the history of India like the Karka (Cancer) and Makar (Capricorn) axis where Rahu Ketu are these days and on the days of the submission of the report of Liberhan Commission. Wait for the fall out of today’s development which the Congress party will exploit and annoy Hindus who do want to see a Rama temple in Ayodhya without politicizing the issue.
The Indian Independence horoscopeNow put the planets of 6 Dec 1992 on the horoscope of India and see how Saturn in the ninth house of religion aspected by Jupiter from Kanya (Virgo) completes a double transit phenomenon with fiery Mars Karka (Cancer) igniting it !
To test this theory further put the planets of 11 September 2001 on the horoscope of USA with Simha lagna when the tower in New York was destroyed. The explanation is given in the margin of the chart. Try Vrischika (Scorpio) or Dhanu (Sagittarius) lagna and this double transit phenomenon does not work.
Now watch the repercussions of all this more keenly because the eclipse of 22 July is falling on the three-nine axis of the Indian Independence horoscope. That is again history in the making.
That is astrology of Hindus.